CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-20-2014 2:58 PMI know some of you are desperate to be right, but you guys simply cannot accept the facts that spinosaurus was not a weak animal and was in fact actually probably quite strong in terms of snout, and was certainly more solid in this regard than carcharodontosaurus. You guys do not see the facts and only think that spinosaurus' snout was not very strong because "it wass sow mutch smaler in hight and widthe then carcarodontasaurus!" This is wrong! I cannot stress that enough.
By comparing the snouts of carcharodontosaurus and spinosaurus, there is so much that you guys are overlooking. All of the characteristics in spinosaurus point to a high capacity to grip, especially more-so than in carcharodontosaurus. These important characteristics include:
More heavily-constructed rostrum in spinosaurus (it was more compact and was characterized by particularly higher density
Rostrum that, along with its more impressive density and build, was simply better adapted for multidirectional resistance. This flows into the point about a much lessened risk of injury in such gripping; spinosaurus' snout was simple so much better designed for gripping without stress fracturing occurring
Balanced dimensions (this flows into my previous point)
Conical teeth (designed for piercing and gripping, not killing)
Simply compare the two animals' snouts, because I am sick of all this "yoo hav no proofs" crap: http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101003190116/archosauria/images/e/e2/Skulls2.png
Tyrannosaurus RexMember6270 XPJan-25-2014 7:28 AMThis is funny. Someone this stubborn going against multiple others who a different opinion than him that are just as stubborn is kinda funny. I'm having a good time when I'm not mad.
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Glad to see that everybody has cooled down.
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CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-25-2014 7:15 PMQuote: in fact, you have completely ignored my sources for my claims...stuff that has been actually acknowledged by paleontologists. but you conveniently didn't read it. yes?
---Edit, I did in fact read it (earlier I couldn't). The problem is that it talks solely about vertical stress, nothing more. It is not inaccurate, just that it has nothing to do with what I am saying. Did I not already acknowledge that carcharodontosaurus' snout was designed for killing and was thus much stronger than spinosaurus' snout vertically? I firmly agree with that source, and it says nothing that contradicts what I am saying.
Guys... Just FYI, we still have a few complete fossil snouts to work with, which just proves that you guys are full of shit even more
CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-25-2014 7:22 PMHere is the respective study BTW:
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0065295
Notice how the only place where they could efficiently test the respective spinosaur rostra was the premaxilla of both species; specifically where it would have a relatively high breaking point in spinosaurus?
CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-25-2014 10:55 PMXD you don't have to download anything buddy.
I have a few problems with your paper. for one, it used jaw FRAGMENTS. not the whole jaw, or even the head. again, all of this is speculative at best.
The authors compared the Spinosaur jaw to gharials...which are mainly fish eaters. Their rostrum isn't robust at all. So the analogy there...is just not good. The Slender snouted crocodile is a poor one too.
The paper...it stated that Spinosaur resistance to stress or whatever is greater then all crocodilian species.....NO REALLY?! when it states that, it negates it earlier in the paper saying SPINOSAURUS had less resistance than a modern day ghraial...Who woulda thought that something as much as 10x a crocodiles size would have a greater...well anything? the paper is a poor source. sorry buddy.
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CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-26-2014 6:07 PMQuote: XD you don't have to download anything buddy.
--Well then why can I not read it?
Quote: The authors compared the Spinosaur jaw to gharials...which are mainly fish eaters. Their rostrum isn't robust at all. So the analogy there...is just not good. The Slender snouted crocodile is a poor one too.
---Because slender-snouted crocodilians are the best modern analogies for spinosaurus... Especially species like the false gharial and freshwater crocodile. Oh wait, but they also compared it and baryonyx to the American alligator too. So... yea...
Quote: The paper...it stated that Spinosaur resistance to stress or whatever is greater then all crocodilian species.....NO REALLY?!
-Uh, that is incorrect both scientifically and in terms of what the paper said. Can you tell me where exactly it claimed that?
Quote: the paper is a poor source. sorry buddy.
---I hope you realize that the paper that you posted about a week ago was written by one of the authors of the paper that I posted (Rayfield). You know that, right?
CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-26-2014 8:18 PM*sigh* we're going in circles. For gods sake, just stop. my paper actually had accurate stuff in it. What the author was doing when he wrote your paper....i just don't know. MY paper was actually accurate and factual. IT takes effort to read a bloody paper bro. Simply kick on the damn link.
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-26-2014 8:33 PMMY GOD JUST STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is so freaking annoying!
Tyrannosaurus RexMember6270 XPJan-26-2014 8:51 PMThis is still kicking? Holy s***, that's pretty f****** crazy. I agree, just stop it.
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CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-26-2014 9:04 PM100! :D gotta be some sorta record, eh?
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-26-2014 10:12 PMok. done. Godzillasaurus, just stop. You ain't persuading any body. so just stop. This is over, point. blank. period. k? k. hopefully this gets the message to you.
Now good-bye.
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I wanted to be Nr. 100 :'(
Keep in mind that many people have died for their beliefs; it's actually quite common. The real courage is in living and suffering for what you believe in. -Brom-
Oops, double post
Keep in mind that many people have died for their beliefs; it's actually quite common. The real courage is in living and suffering for what you believe in. -Brom-
CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-27-2014 1:52 PMQuote: *sigh* we're going in circles. For gods sake, just stop. my paper actually had accurate stuff in it. What the author was doing when he wrote your paper....i just don't know. MY paper was actually accurate and factual. IT takes effort to read a bloody paper bro. Simply kick on the damn link.
That is possibly the most immature and biased statement that has ever been said on any dinosaur forum. Unless you have evidence that your source is "mor fact and nawt as incorect as mi sorce!", that is opinionated. They were both written by the same author, so you can't just claim that my source is weaker just because "yoo want too bee rite!". YOU, my friend, are making no sense right now.
You guys fail at talking about dinosaurs. You cannot have an entire subforum devoted to it and yet claim that everything is all an opinion. I have for my explained why my claims are not an "opinion" and make more sense than all of your "spino is a weakling that only ate sardines" hogwash
Tyrannosaurus RexMember6270 XPJan-27-2014 3:13 PMAnd neither are you Godzillasaurus. One of the most immature things is to call someone else immature. Where's the respect (I guess you'd spell it "respekt" though)? Why do you even spell stuff like that? Seriously, what the point of spelling stuff like that? It's just plain stupid!
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CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-27-2014 3:37 PMWhat the **** you ****ing **** ball of **** to all the people in this. This is just plain stupid, and I think I'm going to take drastic measures to stop this!!! So just **** off, all of you.
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CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-27-2014 3:53 PMyou sir, can cool it. Every body is allowed to get heated about stuff. so chill. it was a debate. one that had it's share of heated words, but its over with. Take all the 'drastic measures' you want. doesn't change anything.
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-27-2014 5:33 PMQuote: And neither are you Godzillasaurus. One of the most immature things is to call someone else immature. Where's the respect (I guess you'd spell it "respekt" though)? Why do you even spell stuff like that? Seriously, what the point of spelling stuff like that? It's just plain stupid!
It is called insulting somebody...
CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-27-2014 5:43 PMYeah, insulting somebody is not allowed genius!!!
CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-27-2014 5:51 PMshows how mature you are.
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
Tyrannosaurus RexMember6270 XPJan-27-2014 5:56 PMHe's saying that Carnosaur is immature, and he's been insulting us. Only going to say this once, but you immature S.O.B.
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CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-28-2014 11:48 AMThat's enough!
Godzillasaurus:if you want to know the recent truth about spinosaurus watch planet dinosaurs!
CompsognathusMember0 XPJan-28-2014 2:42 PMWhy not just tell me what the show said?
Edit, oh, it said nothing that backs up your idea of spinosaurus and instead backs up what I am claiming......
AllosaurusMember3687 XPFeb-23-2014 4:06 PMHow in the hell did I miss this fuse!? Must had been offline... Or else I would have at least attempted to bring peace...
IT'S TIME TO DU-DU-DU-DU-DUEL!!!
CompsognathusMember1 XPFeb-27-2014 2:23 AMEVERYONE JUST PLEASE SHUT UP!
Sorry about that, but it needed to be said.
Godzillasaurus, what's with all the "quote"? (I just said quote, quote, unquote didn't I) You're just getting on everyone's nerves by being an utter anoyance with you posts that don't mean jack. You're acting like FACT DUDE and S-Rex, so why don't you just talk to them and get out of our hair. Your setting a bad reputation for Team Spino and I won't have it.
Keep looking at it.
Youre fat, and I'm not sugarcoating it cause you'd probably eat that too.
CompsognathusMember0 XPFeb-11-2015 10:06 PM.........................................ahhaha holy shit look at my horrifyingly innacurate posts
Nature doesn't deceive us; it is we who deceive ourselves.
AllosaurusMember4297 XPFeb-12-2015 4:09 PM^It's funny looking back at this after the new discoveries.
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VelociraptorMember1630 XPNov-19-2019 8:22 PM... Funnier to read this in 2019 to see that Rexfan predicted the future in one of his first comments on this thread... but then again, this is essentially me just talking to myself since this thread has been dead since 2015 at least...
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CompsognathusMember75 XPNov-20-2019 3:54 PMDon’t worry LazyFish, I’m here too XD. Goddamn, the TIMES we had lolololol!
VelociraptorMember1630 XPNov-20-2019 5:13 PMlol
If people weren't lazy, we wouldn't try to be efficient. If we weren't efficient, we'd never get anything done.
